Comments on: iPhone | RIAs, And This Is What the Internet Looks Like … Without Flash http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/ Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:32:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: g http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-7113 g Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:23:36 +0000 http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-7113 Gee, it seems like every week there is some new news on the story of bringing Flash to the iPhone. This week's big pick is: Adobe Working on Media Player for iPhone http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB120588767706747197.html By BEN CHARNY Adobe Systems Inc. has begun work to create a media player destined for Apple Inc.'s iPhone, Chief Executive Shantanu Narayen said Tuesday, thus adding a new wrinkle to a standoff between the two long-term partners. On Tuesday, when asked about the issue during a conference call with investors, Narayen said the company had since obtained the software developer tools Apple released last month. The tools will let Adobe build a Flash player for the iPhone, then distribute it through Apple's iTunes online store, he said. "We believe Flash is synonymous with the Internet experience, and we are committed to bringing Flash to the iPhone," Narayen said. "We have evaluated (the software developer tools) and we think we can develop an iPhone Flash player ourselves." The tools Adobe is using are part of a broader effort by Apple to entice third-party developers to build and distribute iPhone software add-ons. An Apple spokeswoman didn't have an immediate comment. Adobe's first quarter results show its been doing fine without the iPhone. During its first quarter, a record-breaking 100 million new cell phone devices were distributed that had Flash on board. Also, Microsoft, which sells a cell phone operating system, recently licensed Adobe's flash player for phones. via http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=1196 ... thanks Keith! Gee, it seems like every week there is some new news on the story of bringing Flash to the iPhone.

This week’s big pick is:

Adobe Working on Media Player for iPhone
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB120588767706747197.html

By BEN CHARNY

Adobe Systems Inc. has begun work to create a media player destined for Apple Inc.’s iPhone, Chief Executive Shantanu Narayen said Tuesday, thus adding a new wrinkle to a standoff between the two long-term partners.

On Tuesday, when asked about the issue during a conference call with investors, Narayen said the company had since obtained the software developer tools Apple released last month. The tools will let Adobe build a Flash player for the iPhone, then distribute it through Apple’s iTunes online store, he said.

“We believe Flash is synonymous with the Internet experience, and we are committed to bringing Flash to the iPhone,” Narayen said. “We have evaluated (the software developer tools) and we think we can develop an iPhone Flash player ourselves.”

The tools Adobe is using are part of a broader effort by Apple to entice third-party developers to build and distribute iPhone software add-ons. An Apple spokeswoman didn’t have an immediate comment.

Adobe’s first quarter results show its been doing fine without the iPhone. During its first quarter, a record-breaking 100 million new cell phone devices were distributed that had Flash on board. Also, Microsoft, which sells a cell phone operating system, recently licensed Adobe’s flash player for phones.

via http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=1196 … thanks Keith!

]]> By: g http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6855 g Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:02:32 +0000 http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6855 Nice article further analyzing this topic: Is Apple working on iPhone Flash rival? 'Missing product' comments hints that something's up http://www.techradar.com/blogs/article/is-apple-working-on-iphone-flash-rival-257604 Nice article further analyzing this topic:
Is Apple working on iPhone Flash rival?
‘Missing product’ comments hints that something’s up
http://www.techradar.com/blogs/article/is-apple-working-on-iphone-flash-rival-257604

]]> By: g http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6600 g Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:07:17 +0000 http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6600 Yikes! Following from article at: http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206901923 Apple chief executive Steve Jobs said Adobe (NSDQ: ADBE) Flash is not yet good enough for the iPhone, prompting Adobe to respond that the smartphone isn't ready for the Web without its video-playing technology. Then Ryan replies: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/?p=777 I love my iPhone and I don’t think that the web experience is complete without Flash. Yikes!

Following from article at:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206901923

Apple chief executive Steve Jobs said Adobe (NSDQ: ADBE) Flash is not yet good enough for the iPhone, prompting Adobe to respond that the smartphone isn’t ready for the Web without its video-playing technology.

Then Ryan replies:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/?p=777

I love my iPhone and I don’t think that the web experience is complete without Flash.

]]> By: Ryan Stewart http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6382 Ryan Stewart Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:14:38 +0000 http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6382 Hah, thanks. I asked if I could put that on my business cards but they said no ;) iPhone has become a dirty word around our house because that post has caused a lot of headaches. Now I have to ask my wife "Have you seen that thing that shall not be named" when I'm looking for my phone. =Ryan rstewart@adobe.com Hah, thanks. I asked if I could put that on my business cards but they said no ;)

iPhone has become a dirty word around our house because that post has caused a lot of headaches. Now I have to ask my wife “Have you seen that thing that shall not be named” when I’m looking for my phone.

=Ryan
rstewart@adobe.com

]]> By: Emanuele Cipolloni http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6372 Emanuele Cipolloni Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:37:19 +0000 http://blog.halcyonsolutions.net/2008/02/21/iphone_no_flash_yet/#comment-6372 I met quite a few people during the past few months which for one reason or the other didn't want to buy an iPhone. Reasons varied from: it doesn't support 3G, get easily dirty, I'd like it to have a real keyboard, to others like: I don't want to switch over AT&T or I wait until interface is fully in Chinese, but nobody ever said: because it dosn't support Flash. The only ones that complains actively about are actually Flash developers that think the 4 millions of iPhones without Flash cannot be targeted by their skills or are worried about poor people that can't browse Flash sites. Infact, they completely ignore that with the 450 millions of devices (so Adobe says....) with FlashLite on, it is impossible to navigato to ANY site that uses Flash, as FlashLite is not capable of reproducing web sites designed for Flash 7.0 or later versions. Would be nice also to realize that iPhone do not have enough processor power nor memory bandwidth (not size) to run a full Flash 9 plugin or standalone player. Would be nice if the Flash fans get over this and instead start to bitch to Adobe, pledging them to create a better integrated plafortm with the currently available and negleted installed base hundreds of time bigger than iPhone one, more intelligent way to upgrade so to reduce version fragmentation and more specific mobile features like bluetooth, local file access and Contacts list access. On the mobile side, it seems that the web is already without Flash. I met quite a few people during the past few months which for one reason or the other didn’t want to buy an iPhone. Reasons varied from: it doesn’t support 3G, get easily dirty, I’d like it to have a real keyboard, to others like: I don’t want to switch over AT&T or I wait until interface is fully in Chinese, but nobody ever said: because it dosn’t support Flash. The only ones that complains actively about are actually Flash developers that think the 4 millions of iPhones without Flash cannot be targeted by their skills or are worried about poor people that can’t browse Flash sites. Infact, they completely ignore that with the 450 millions of devices (so Adobe says….) with FlashLite on, it is impossible to navigato to ANY site that uses Flash, as FlashLite is not capable of reproducing web sites designed for Flash 7.0 or later versions. Would be nice also to realize that iPhone do not have enough processor power nor memory bandwidth (not size) to run a full Flash 9 plugin or standalone player. Would be nice if the Flash fans get over this and instead start to bitch to Adobe, pledging them to create a better integrated plafortm with the currently available and negleted installed base hundreds of time bigger than iPhone one, more intelligent way to upgrade so to reduce version fragmentation and more specific mobile features like bluetooth, local file access and Contacts list access. On the mobile side, it seems that the web is already without Flash.

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